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Nicholas Reville's avatar

Great article, thanks. I'd love to read your analysis of why Lilly seems to have been more successful stopping compounding of tirzepatide than Novo has been with sema. I've been curious about that.

Also it's worth noting that rhybelsus uses much more semaglutide per dose than the injectable, so that a small amount of that can survive the stomach. Also, the additional ingredients and processes to manufacture the semaglutide pills are much more complicated than the injections. This could make it harder for compounders to compete on price for pills, because their API cost and manufacturing complexity will go up.

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Keith's avatar

I think GLP1s are unique and pharma companies cannot rely on the standard pricing model of charging a ton during the patent protected period. They are extremely easy to make - you can literally buy "next gen" GLP1s right now, it's completely legal as long as you don't inject it.

Instead I think they'll have to use more traditional tactics such as touting increased safety, price, availability, maybe even partnering with some competitor distributors. The market here is so incredibly huge I really believe there's plenty of profit to go around.

Compounders aside, there are, what, a dozen new GLP1s in trials? Even within the patented space there is going to be a ton of competition. Novo is still on the backfoot here, Cagrisema looks very promising but not as good as retatrutide

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